Crackpot370

I've been having a problem with TonicBars (which I love by the way).

On each one of my characters It seems to pick one bar to always use the background color on no matter how many times I go in to the setup and uncheck the box. Every time I log back in or I level it always checks the box again. It also keeps changing it from Always to Triggered, but doesn't seem to make the bar disappear.

I've also begun having a problem with the War-Cry bar for my new Minstrel character. Every time I log in or I level the bar changes itself to Triggered instead of the way I set it, which is Always. I have to keep going in to the configuration panel and change it back to Always instead of Triggered.

Tshakaar

TonicBars has weird behaviors when called from a shortcut. By key or click.
With an alias, no problem.

Example : if i call it with a shortcut, all my extensions bars are not at the good place, but keep working.


And Nuclear, you didn't answered my precedent post ^^'

So i add a question : why ONE settings file? Why not a file per toon?
Mine becomes huge... :s

Crackpot370

I've been having a problem with TonicBars (which I love by the way).

On each one of my characters It seems to pick one bar to always use the background color on no matter how many times I go in to the setup and uncheck the box. Every time I log back in or I level it always checks the box again. It also keeps changing it from Always to Triggered, but doesn't seem to make the bar disappear.

I've also begun having a problem with the War-Cry bar for my new Minstrel character. Every time I log in or I level the bar changes itself to Triggered instead of the way I set it, which is Always. I have to keep going in to the configuration panel and change it back to Always instead of Triggered.

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I've figured out a workaround for my problem. I create a new bar instead of using one of the "named" ones that have automatic triggers associated with them. The generic newly created bars don't (so far) seem to be subject to the behavior described above. Now to go through all my characters and make the changeover...:

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oops. looks like I hit Reply instead of Edit

magill

Don't know if this suits you or not...
What I would do is simply delete that toon's info...however...

That said, What I'm talking about is editing the basic data file and finding the section for that particular toon and then either find the missing right brace "}" ... or whatever else is corrupt for that toon.

If you don't know what i'm talking about, don't worry, it is serious "geek-speek" and not for the faint of heart.
Which is another way of saying -- don't try it if you can't expand on what I've said.
It is not a "simple" thing to do and cannot be explained step-by-step.

What else can you do...?

Simply "delete" (move, rename) the data file and start over.

The data file is found at
"Documents/The Lord of the Rings Online/PluginData/<account>/<server>/AllCharacters/TonicBarSettings.plugindata"

Data for all characters is found in that one file.

magill

This is primarily an FYI, but also to confirm an earlier post

I'm seeing the "vanishing inventory bars" problem fairly regularly.

However, adding to the issue is ... if i /unload plugins and then reload them, I frequently find the game client freeze-up sometime later. Usually 3-5 minutes later.

If I don't have any plugins loaded, I don't see the freeze.

Lua's in use:
Manager
TonicBars
BuffBars
Travel
MoorMap

Lilarcor

Well thanks Magill for pointing this out. As for your earlier advice, nothing happens when i open the bags, but when i eat or drink from the bag, sometimes the bars reappear. totally unreliable.

bsmorgan

I've noticed that TonicBars will "turn itself on" whenever a character levels. After clicking the main icon and closing the window, everything goes back to normal. Its just a minor annoyance but probably should be fixed.

Edit: Due to the "non-standard" way this plugin is packaged, I may have been running 2.4 instead of 2.6.2! Please consider packaging this plugin in the same way as 90% of the other plugins on LoTROInterface.

Freelancer

I love the potential that Tonicbars offers, but I think that "totally unreliable" pretty much sums it up. I use it pretty much daily on every character and have been doing so for about six months, even persevering through the ROI inventory bug crashes.

I see two main bugs frequently.

1. Inventory bars lose their contents.
2. Triggered bars are not detecting states reliably.

Combined, these two bugs break the primary function that I want Tonicbars to provide - namely to reduce button clutter and have buttons that only appear when needed.

As an example, I have a short inventory bar that has a named "athelas" filter and is set to trigger when my health falls below 33%. I have a similar bar for power. Frequently both bars will lose their contents. If I do a /tb and bring up either bar to examine it, magically both bars will fix themselves. Unloading and reloading TB has the same effect. I have seen similar problems with quick bars that I've just dragged a skill or inventory item to.

Triggers are nowhere near reliable enough to count on them during combat. Triggered bars fail to appear maybe thirty percent of the time. I have bars set to trigger for wound, poison, disease, fear, low health and low power. Often I'll see a wound icon appear (as one example) on my debuff list and yet my wound bar does not appear. I have also seen the opposite occur where I might get low in power, see the low power bar appear, but then it gets stuck on when my power has recovered. Popping a power potion, opening the /tb interface or reloading the plugin will reset the bar to the correct (in this case invisible) state.

Tonicbars 2.6.2 is the only plugin that I use so I can't blame anything on interference or bad behavior of other tools.

It seems like the problem is much worse since ROI so I'm not sure if the issue is with LUA or the latest version of TB.

TB is a great plugin that's just not living up to it's potential because it's a bit flakey.

Bastiat1

Is it possible to setup a bar that only triggers on Ctrl and Alt both being pressed at the same time?

stryker84

2. Triggered bars are not detecting states reliably.

None of my potion bars trigger anymore. I use TB to replace the palantir curable support, but the bars don't show anymore when I'm wounded/feared/poisioned/diseased.

Bado

[quote] 2. Triggered bars are not detecting states reliably.

None of my potion bars trigger anymore. I use TB to replace the palantir curable support, but the bars don't show anymore when I'm wounded/feared/poisioned/diseased.[/qoute]

Having a similar problem.
When you go to check that they are set the window is blank yet when you open the drop down list the right box is ticked. Un-ticking and re-ticking then makes the right trigger be shown in the window. However when you got to the next triggered bar it shows as the same value as the one you have just set. Again it is a case of resetting the correct trigger for each bar.

Wicked Mouse

With Turbine's Plugin Manager TonicBars doesn't load flawlessly anymore: extention bars are displaced. Only manual (re)loading solves this.

Almagnus1

Noticed something weird with the plugin manager....

If I have items on the bars from my backpack, and it's loaded with the Turbine Plugin Manager, all the items will be stripped from the bars.

On the other hand, if I'm using the manager that we've been using since Day 1, it works just fine.

Tobasco da Gama

Ever since U5, Extensions have been broken for me. TonicBars aren't remembering them, so I need to set them up every time. I also have the same problem with backpack items that Almagnus mentioned.

Skali

When loaded through the lotro plugin manager, the extension bars do not align with the main bar. The utility works fine if loaded manually.