SilentSpace

Great Plugin! I like it.
But something is disturbing me. I like to make a lot of screenshots. But if I press F12 the icon of Compendium is still there. It would be great if you can fix this issue.
Thx

lunarwtr

Great news! I've gotten permission from the awesome folks over at http://lotro-wiki.com to include their data. I'm working on bringing their deed information over now.

lolwaffles

Wow, that was fast. Thanks!

abj9562

Thank you for the udates. Hard work like yours is always appreciated greatly.

lunarwtr

This recent release addresses the following two requested enhancements. Thank you for feedback.

I currently am also trying to improve the deed information. I'll keep you posted soon as to progress.

lunarwtr

one smaller than the blue square + ring? I'll need to check out moormap & see if I can turn on this smaller icon. Thank you for suggestion.

lunarwtr

I have a compendium extension plugin (not released) that does this, but what I found is that

Items, Quests, Deeds, Skills, all appear to use the same ids. They also do not appear to be in sequence. When you hit a non-item or skill id, you get something that looks like normal quality item, but doesn't do anything when clicked upon. That said I wouldn't mind releasing this extension. Is there interest in people classifying them for Compendium?

Gramps

Correct me if I'm wrong, but your pulling info from the lorebook? For items as an example?

You can pull them from in game.

All items in LOTRO are saved as a HEX code. 7002B316 for example. If you convert that to a decimal, then create a loop that increases by increments of 1 and converted the number back to HEX.

To show the items locally its pretty easy, just use the Turbine.Shell.WriteLine method, with this:
<Examine:IIDDID:0x0000000000000000:0x7002B316>[Unknown:2B316]<\Examine>



Just a note, I have no idea what all that means lol-But I know for a fact thats whats being used ingame by several ppl to populate items that are in the database, in game, to link them into chat. They're using rainbow chat iirc

Someone a whole lot smarter then me explained it to me.

lolwaffles

I love this plugin. Just a small feature request though: could you add a mini icon option like the moormap plugin? It would look nicer just sticking around the map.

lunarwtr

Thank you for offer. Let me start by going through your feedback.

Initially, I'd like to start with seeing if existing wiki's would mind sharing content in easier and more consistent form. They already have people who go through the data and ensure its accuracy to a higher degree than I can. I do not think the initial point would be so much to have our own wiki to "compete" with existing ones as they do phenomenal job, but to leverage the subset of data that would be great to have access to from within the game. We take data from several sources, correlate it for use "offline". The piece I think some form of wiki is needed is to review and approve / reject player submitted comments, items, quest details, locations we receive directly from players.

I would like to use lorebook as authoritative source for most things. However, it does lag behind and miss data. I'd like to be able to "add to" and enter things that are missing.

LUA has access to save data out to the users PluginData folder structure. This allows addons to persist / load. The thought here is to use external program that would bundle the PluginData for compendium and submit. Ideally I'd bundle this "submitter" with a plugin installer application that would allow users to easily add/update plugins.

Alternative is to have form based submission on a website, like questhelper uses... this unfortunately requires user to find the file you want, and upload it. You'd miss out on a lot of submission if there is learning curve to submitting, and from them not remembering to in the first place.

This is essentially what I am doing now in a basic form. I pull down and cache quite a bit of data from various sources. Parse through it, correlate what I want, and present it in new releases of compendium. While it currently does this, it is not in an ideal state. I'd like to make this seamless, and not so brittle to breaking when game gets updated, and data is no longer accessible. This is where I will be working initially when I am not updating the LUA side of the project.

A web UI to this data would be needed for voting (great idea btw). The voting feature works well in wowhead articles and I have used it to sift through the comments.

will do, and thanks again!

lmollea

Hi there.
Maybe we can join forces.
I'm currently working on a build/character planner for lotro (not a plugin and I'm currently exploring the feasibility for a web based planner) and I'm currently stuck with the same problem.

Regarding partnering with an existing wiki (only lotro-wiki comes to mind though) could be an idea, but that one ATM seems a bit lagging behind with the new things introduced in RoI.

Problem is that an user-editable database requires strict formatting and checking rules to then re-generate the compendium datafiles and - at least - a possible lorebook integration and usage as an authoritative source (overriding user modifications).

Regarding your three points, some random thoughts
1) I don't think we may collect data from the game (checked the API and it doesn't seems that we may make queries on existing objects). Unless I'm mistaken. We could make the plugin make some "dumpfile" of player's gear.
2) I think we have a barrier: lua in lotro is sandboxed and has no access to the external world. The only idea that comes to mind is writing something to the chat (as long as it's logged) and then use some external program to upload the data somewhere.
3) Probably the best thing to do is pre-fill the web database with the lorebook items and then let use modify the entries with at least a "vote" system when changing lorebook items (at least 3? 5? 10? votes needed to override a lorebook entry).

As I said. If you're interested, drop me a line.

fernanda1702

OMG I love you This will make doing deeds and other things much better Especially with many characters Thank you!

abj9562

Thanks

lunarwtr

Good idea.. I'll look at adding that.

abj9562

Hey I really like the check for completed box by the quests and deeds! This is great work on your excellent mod.

This is a feature request and I respect the fact your time is very valuable. But could you add something to select and mark as complete all filtered quests/deeds being displayed. I feel it would be far easier for high level players to uncheck quests/deeds that are incomplete rather than going through 4500 some odd quests/deeds one by one and marking them.

Also is there a way to filter checked and uncheked quests/deeds.