NuclearTonic

I have added support for the Compendium to TonicBars. Sorry, been working RL stuff and am just getting back to some of this for a while. Let me know if there is something different I need to do. Thanks.
NuclearTonic

lunarwtr

My first release of one that is for Mac / Linux is here. I have yet to test it for Mac though so if someone gets to doing it first, please let me know.

magill

It depends on the sophistication of the user... To be truly "mac-like" it should be a bundle which can be clicked upon to launch.

As for locations...

<user>/Documents/The Lord of the Rings Online/ -- is where the "Plugins" and "PluginsData" folders reside. Both CXG and (I assume) WINE link the Windows Bottle "MY Documents" to the users "Documents" folder. It's all pretty transparent. Screenshots and .ini files for the Turbine client reside there.

As for where to install -- <user>/Applications/ is where the individual user would (should) look for applications. System wide applications -- for multi-user environments - go into /Applications. However, I have noticed with Lion now, that "Everything" goes into /Applications. I suspect Apple may have changed its recommendations to developers for the current release, Lion (10.7.x)

If needed, additional support "stuff" goes into <user>(or root)/Library/Application Support/<product-name>/ Interestingly, under Lion, Apple made the "Library" directory no longer visible to the GUI (Finder) by default. It also made the GUI "Applications" default to the root version.

FWIW, the "Java Preferences" application, sits in Utiliities under /Applications.

lunarwtr

Thanks. I will bring my macbook home this weekend.. I suspect the difficulty with mac version will be determining proper install locations, and also application bundle creation. Do you think I need to create an application bundle? Or will people be ok with a single jar and a bash script that launches it

magill

Congrats on the Java version.

Just got word today. Version 11 of CrossOver Games CXG goes into beta next week. With, one assumes WINE 1.4, which just went to RC2.

Tried loading MONO 2.6.7 into CXG, but since I've never used it before ... "nothing happened" (LPC still crashed) -- I assume it is a library that needs to be compiled against, but haven't read any docs about it at all yet. CXG does have an install script for MONO that makes "that part" painless.

Let me know if you want someone to test the Java version in the Mac/CXG/WINE environment.

lunarwtr

I got the grids loading the data feeds tonight in the Java version! Woohoo!

EDIT: Before bed, I also got sorting on grids and previewer pane area working.

magill

I know what 7z is, but the question is -- what is it really? Is it widely used or is it just "another format clamoring for attention?"

I know Turbine is using it. (From what Narril has said, I assume for licensing reasons, i.e. to avoid patent licensing issues.)

But are other Plugin authors using it? Which, I suppose, is another way of saying -- would dropping support for 7z be a step backwards? I an not current with all of the arguments surrounding it.

As for WINE, my understanding is that sometime "soon" 1.4.0 will be released and CXG upgraded as well. (1.4rc1 was just released)... no idea about .net beyond 2.0 - You CAN install 2.0 now according to the fixed bug list. I don't see any comments on WINE/MONO newer than several releases back.

lunarwtr

Spent a lot of time last night hammering out code for the java version. I've spent 10 years writing java code, and have yet to use their swing packages, so its been a learning experience for me, and that is where I am currently beating my head against the wall. I gave up last night after a splitting head ache.

LPC has about 90% functionality with wine and mono if I downgrade it to 2.0. The biggest problem is the 7z compression support. I would need to no longer support plugins with 7z if we switched to 2.0. I hope with the small library change this might be a good alternative for folks. I will see how the java comes a long though. I've made good progress, and I get easily distracted.

My hat goes off to all of you at lotrowiki for all your hard work! It is appreciated. Recently I've talked with a few of them on their chat channel, and have blessing to incorporate some of their data with my other project, a plugin called LoTRO Compendium. I'm very excited. LPC, however, sidetracked me through the holidays and I have yet to complete that.

magill

Ok, finally found some time to play with this ...

Simple answer is -- CrossOver Games CXG 10.3, which is basically WINE 1.3.9 does not support .net 3.5. --- therefore - fall down, go boom.

I do not know where in the WINE tree support for .net currently stands. CXG is upgrading to the latest and greatest WINE, reportedly sometime this month (February).

Minion and LOTROnion do work. Its Java appears to have no issues with the Mac version.

Getting Minion started however is painful if you don't play WoW (i.e. don't have WoW installed.) But once past the WOW issues (It REQUIRES that you tell it where your WOW directory is -- 3 different times!) - it will let you load the LOTROnion plugin. From then on it seems to work fine. So Far, I've only used it enough to prove that the Plugin works -- it sees my LOTRO Plugins, which are current with .plugincompendium files.

MMOUI reports "Your Java Version: 1,6,0,29" for OSX (Lion) 10.7.2.

Hope to see a Java based version.

A retired Unix Systems Administrator, I'm
currently involved in writing up (documenting) Lua Plugins for LOTRO-Wiki:
http://lotro-wiki.com/index.php/Lua_Plugins

And trying to figure out what to say about "managing Plugins" and etc.

Feel free to review and comment on the several articles.

lunarwtr

Took a bit of time off this weekend on programming. Getting a little burnt out if I don't step away. I left off on Saturday morning with most of UI done, and various back-end components for a pure java implementation of LPC. I personally like the current ones look and feel for windows, so I'll keep implementing that one. My thoughts are the java one can be for the mac & linux folks.

lunarwtr

I regards to this linux support.

I've loaded it into wine & mono with minor changes to the codebase.. but there are some problems.

1) Mono - visually looks great. no graphical glitches. However, as far as I can tell there is no 7zip library supported for mono yet. I could strip the current library out, but that would mean the Turbine library would not be installable (unless it is repackaged and hosted somewhere).

2) Wine - installing wine, wintricks, dotnet20 package I can get it running. Checkboxes and scrollbars in the grid will not work. If you click them, the screen just doesn't repaint right away. I've tried forcing a repaint in several different ways, but still nothing. You can see checkboxes by clicking them, then clicking anywhere on the grid, then they suddently appear. Scrollbars on the other hand do not seem to work in the grid component. Arrow keys do work.

In mean time I'm looking at a potential java route. I can potentially make the app in java so it works in all platforms. Playing around with this atm to see what scope the effort would be.

Emberleaf

There really needs to be a lunarwtr fan club out there. I'm pretty sure I'd join it. Heck, I may even be the president!

Thank you SO much for all your continued hard work on this!!

lunarwtr

On a side note, for those linux users out there, I almost have a build of LPC working in linux. There are some graphical problems I'm trying to work through.

lunarwtr

Added a number of bug fixes, and a couple features that were requested.

lunarwtr

I found a bad bug in plugin compendium this weekend that I'm working at fixing. I'm not sure why its doing what it is, but when you try to turn off the checking for updates on configuration panel. Then close LPC and restart, the cache directory gets set to a wierd value. For now, please do not shut off the updater check box and you shouldn't have a problem. If you've already experienced the problem, you can recheck the box, and then delete all the text in the cache directory textbox, and it should reset back to system default.