Digital_Utopia

The order of the changelog was changed to go from newest to oldest, and for a short period of time immediately before, and shortly after the latest update - there was a message warning that due to an issue with my ISP, I wasn't able to test Palantir with the changes coming in that update. Since that time, I have been able to test it with no issues, so I removed that message.

Unfortunately, any changes to the page counts as an update as well, even though there have been no real changes to the instructions, or the plugin itself. I apologize for any confusion.

At this point, unless Turbine releases an API update that breaks Palantir - or a new bug somehow surfaces, 1.093 is the final release of v1. v2 is currently quite far along in the planning stage, with the actual writing starting within the next few weeks.

For more information about what's coming with Palantir 2, please check out this thread

jeredwolffe

I was recently looking through the forums and came across a very old post requesting a HUD almost exactly like yours. I still cannot seem to put pics in my posts, so, the link is. . .

http://www.lotrointerface.com/forums...ight=goldeneye

Yes you posted to this thread and he was referred to Palantir. The question and suggestion I have, is there any way you can put the opponents' vitals on the inside like the pic, or on the outside of our vitals if you prefer to make it a bit more different.

JW

Digital_Utopia

If I had a nickel for every time someone asked this....I'd be a rich, rich man by now.

Is it a good idea? It's a great idea!
Is it something I've wanted to do since last June, when the plugin system was introduced? Yes it has been.
Can I do it yet? No.

Unfortunately, the only vitals information available to the plugin system right now, is the player's character. As soon as target vitals (or any other vitals for that matter) becomes available, you've got yourself a deal

Konungr

Is there anyway to have options like loot rule or leave instance when you hide game vital ?

Digital_Utopia

Plugins currently do not have access to the options you would get from the right-click menu. Because of this, I originally did not include the option to hide the default vitals, but added it later upon request.

The best option right now would be to use a skin that reduces the size of the vitals down to an icon sized image - to provide access to that menu, without crowding up your screen.

The Old One has already created such a skin - and you can find that here. Of course, if you are already using a custom skin, you will have to merge the two, but otherwise - that should be a fair compromise until that menu can be done in Lua. Note: you will have to allow the default vitals to be shown if you use such a skin.

GodP0w3r

I love this plugin!
One question though, is it possible to display another set of bars showing the health and power of a lore-master compagnion? Right now I still find myself having to look away from the action for that.

GodP0w3r

Digital_Utopia

First off, thanks I'm glad you like it!

As far as your question goes - unfortunately it isn't. However, as soon as this (and at least 10 other types of data) is available through the plugin API, I'll be more than happy to add it.

When I'm finished with Palantir 2, the plugin will serve to show exactly how far I would like to take it - in terms of features, options and appearance. (Unless hell freezes over before then) not every bar will be enabled, but that will only be due to the fact that the data isn't available for it. So for instance, you will see options for companion morale and power bars - but until Turbine makes that data available, that choice will be grayed out. The good news is, that as soon as that data is available - it won't take but a couple of minutes for me to make an update that will enable those bars, and upload it here.

GodP0w3r

Thanks for the quick and clear reply, I'd briefly looked over the documentation myself and was afraid that'd be the reason it wasn't implemented already. Ah well, guess there's not much that can be done but wait for the API to be updated. Still thanks for a great job so far

DaemonSambe

I don't know if you're adding anything to the current build, but i thought it would be a good idea to add a commandline toggle for displaying/hiding the default vitals frame. I don't keep it visible, but there is sometimes a need for the actual play menu, for instance to leave a skirmish early or something. So instead of loading the options, and toggling the frame for 5s, i would just be able to type a commandline, do what i need, and run the command again to hide it.
.Regards

Shadra

Is there an option to assign moral and power pot clickables below the bars in the same way as the cure ones?

Digital_Utopia

Not at this time, and frankly, I doubt there will be. In fact, there's a good chance that even curable support is going to be dropped in the next version. I'll save the whole "What I feel Palantir should be" speech for another time, but more practically - if you took 4 quickslots from any bars plugin, placed them directly under the debuff bar, filled them with cureables, you'd have the exact same result - and wouldn't even have to set cooldowns in the options.

This isn't about saving time/effort for myself though. Rather, it's the belief that complexity only serves a purpose if the result is better than what can already be easily created (i.e. ordinary quickslot bars). In order to come up with a better solution, I need to know exactly what everybody feels are the downsides to a simple quickslot bar - so I can work on solving these downsides.

That's a very good idea - and while I will include it in the next version, the only way it will show up before then is if Turbine makes me need to release a fix, or some stealth bug shows itself in the current version.

Modnar

Just wanted to point out that both of these will work together.

However you must either unzip Palantir and give just the DigitalUtopia folder to Mod Manager, or do a manual install. Thereafter using /manager will allow Mod Manager to enable/disable Palantir within the game.

dreamingxashley

I would like this mod 10x better if we could somehow hide the player portrait window

Digital_Utopia

Technically you can, by checking the "Hide Player Vitals" checkbox in the main options page - however, the caveat is that you lose access to the right-click menu by doing so.

The best option right now is to use a skin to modify the size/appearance of the player portrait/vitals - so that it's effectively nothing more than an icon that allows you access to that menu.

There's one I linked to a bit further down this page that should work - or at the very least, use as a reference to further customize it to suit your needs/desires.

Besides that, as soon as Turbine gives us access to that menu - I will be sure to add something to completely replace the portrait/player vitals

Krunj82

Posted on the wrong page, moved over to here. ~ Cairenn