Eili

Made a fresh install on a new character.
Create a simple bar, filled in with some pots and items
A file .data is created and i can see it in the folder plugindata.

Though if i log off and come back in, the bar is empty again. The .data though still shows items.

After some testing i find it seems what is the problem.

Lotro Manager load all others plugins data fine, but Bevy data.
Though if i unload all (button unload) plugins and ask to load (button load) Bevy, then the bar load correctly full of the items.

So to have all others plugins loaded you need to load them one by one after Bevy. And to do that each time you log in game.

Stever1388

I'm unable to recreate this problem. I will test this a bit more tomorrow, but if you could list the other plugins you are running and loading in with the LOTRO Plugin Manager, and also if any errors appear in the chat window when you log in, that would be helpful.

Also, this update will make it so when a quickslot is empty but shouldn't be (ex: you run out of health pots, log out, and then log back in, the quickslot that held the health pots is now blank), when/if you do get those exact health pots back, that quickslot will update/change back to the health pots, you won't have to set up the bar/quickslot again, unless you want to change which health pot (or other item) is in the quickslot.

Hopefully we'll be able to find out what is wrong.

MrJackdaw

Dear Eili,

Blast! I thought it was fixed - at least here it works just fine. You may want to roll back to the previous version for now and see if that still works for you.

I think what I may do is include the "loader" as an alternative for people who still see the bug - what thinks you Stever1388?

EDIT: Just realised I have got your name wrong *every time* Stever1388... sorry!

EDIT: Just did it anyway - only took a few mins.

MrJackdaw

Version 321
Bevy Loader put back in just-in-case. You only need to use this if you still have issues with the bars not loading properly. If you don't then go ahead and use the normal BevyoBars2 to load the plugin. I have no issues myself, so this is just a belt-and-braces approach to plugin design!

This is really just in case other plugins cause an issue, as Eili found with Tobii.

Adder

OK, I'm going to ask a dumb question here. I apologize but it's almost 5 am here and I'm just about brain-dead...

If we install this latest version, can we just install it over the older version, or should we delete the old .plugin file first? Or perhaps just delete the entire old version and reinstall completely fresh?

MrJackdaw

Not dumb, just me being unspecific! Just copy over - hardly anything has changed to be fair...

Eili

MrJackdaw

Ah! Nice to know it was another plugin causing the issue - and not to be unexpected. I will leave Bevyautoloader as an option for those who have issues.

Not a problem! Thanks for doing the search.

And to you! Have fun in Arda!

Eili

May be as Author of plugins you could speak to Turbine .... when now you go in session play you have all the plugins trying to load ..... in the session play :P

No need to say it is totally a bad idea ...

Stever1388

Sorry I had gone to bed when all of the action was going down, but I can confirm that TOBII would be causing the problems because the event handlers in that plugin are not "safe", as in, they overwrite other plugins event handlers, which means if TOBII is loaded in after BevyBars is loaded, then your quickslots won't work right. I recently discovered that the Travel plugin has the same problem with the local player InCombatChanged events.

This is the reason plugin managers like Bootstrap (and my own Ordered Plugin Loader) had the ability to set the order for the plugins to load, because certain plugins were never "fixed" with the Nov 2010 update that caused the LocalPlayer to be a universal object through all plugins, and some plugins still step on the methods/event handlers of other plugins.

I'm glad you got it fixed and MrJackdaw I agree it's a good idea to keep the Loader option until these kinds of problems are fixed.

nugget1770

Why do the Monitor and Debuff options not work in monster play? Is there any way to get this working on my Weaver?

MrJackdaw

Oh! Erm... I have never done Monster Play... Well... Erm... I suppose I had better try!

EDIT: Tried it - stance module doesn't work but others seemed fine. Remember that it can only monitor buffs on your Player Character, not others. Trapdoor was detected just fine, as were wounds.

nugget1770

I have configured some bars to appear when I'm wounded poisoned feared or diseased but they don't. Same with the buff watcher option when I get dazed or rooted. The bellow X health/power option does work though.

Eili

So after some days, i went in the festival and created a bar to have the apples and petals on it.

After one utilisation the two items become blocked from any utilisation, even on my main bar and backpack.

I have to log off to be able to use those again

MrJackdaw

In a thread here Narrel states;
So, I am not going to touch Bevy till I see what they do - once burned, twice shy...